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Mothwing ([personal profile] mothwing) wrote2013-03-09 02:43 pm

Supernatural

The fight between good and evil as told from the refreshing POV of two angsty built white dudes in their twenties. So. Um. Who is this show for?

It's as though they marinated an eighties cop show in current slash fandom for a while and this is what came up. There are these two angsty brothers in their tweens who fight demons, and angst about the (dead) women in their lives, go to hell, and angst, and get tortured, and angst, and torture others, and angst, and kill boatloads of innocent people, and angst. Later on, they acquire an angelic side-kick, and the show seems to be fully aware of the slash potential, at least I find it hard to explain away the way scenes between these three are filmed otherwise.

Much like in most corners of manslash fandom, there just are no female main characters in the show, and if there are women, they are used as bait, as window dressing, as a cause, as a reward, and usually to scream because they can scream at a higher pitch. Every female character is a "bitch" or a "whore", and they all come between the brothers and therefore ultimately need to be destroyed. But they are demons, so that is fine.

The series seems to be aware of the fact that it has a fandom, but also seems to think that they're a bunch of overexcited morons. So... is this aimed at self-loathing or ~self-ironic~ white female slash fandom or really misogynistic white gay men (and neither seems unlikely, given that the series seems to imply that one of the male leads is bisexual)?

Internet, please explain. 
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[personal profile] lordhellebore 2013-03-09 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The lingering looks especially Castiel shoots Dean are hilarious.

I can't answer your question, unfortunately :/ It's not making so much sense, is it?
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[identity profile] mothwing.livejournal.com 2013-03-09 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Hah, going by the tumblr fandom of that show I thought that those two were the main characters because 98% of posts are gifsets of lingering Destiel looks. And the show does seem to be aware of that and milking it, too. ("See, he has this weakness. He likes you." - Uh-hu, series, "likes").

No, it doesn't make sense. I'd have hoped that a series that self-aware'd treat its fanbase with more respect. But given their track record with their female characters and general misogyny issues I guess it's not surprising that they don't? IDEK. It's why I don't understand who this is for, because this in-universe hostility at women seems odd if it's not a sort of "keep out" sign. It seems more self-aware than in old schooly adventure novels in which women simply don't exist at all.