Scraps from the table
Friday, August 10th, 2007 07:13 pmCan someone kindly explain to me, please, please how homosexuals marrying harms the protection of the family that the German and EU government think is so important they keep quoting it in this context?
I know I am probably annoying and boring everyone with the sudden outburst of LGBT rights-related issues, and I am trying to keep them as low as I used to, but I'm going insane with trying to see the sense in the arguments. It. Does. Not. Harm. Families. And nor does it mean that families as they are and marriages as they are are somehow invalidated or defiled or desecrated. Seriously. "Homosexuals can't procreate and hence not really have a family", seems to be the sole reason, really. I'd like to see all those people who are married and not procreating stripped of some of their rights, then, please.
The best thing about this - German law does not actually take the trouble to define what a "marriage" is, they just say that everyone has a right to have one - oh, the fucking irony, as I quite apparently do not. The only thing which brings "man" and "woman" into it are the legal commentaries - and the ECHR, which is apparently designed to be especially explicit and has,
... although that still does not say that they have to marry each other, but again, the commentaries. But of course, since we have now been graciously offered the chance to get a civil union, we "can't complain".
I wonder how long that will take to be changed - but considering how long it's taken for women to be allowed to work or vote it might just take a wee while.
I know I am probably annoying and boring everyone with the sudden outburst of LGBT rights-related issues, and I am trying to keep them as low as I used to, but I'm going insane with trying to see the sense in the arguments. It. Does. Not. Harm. Families. And nor does it mean that families as they are and marriages as they are are somehow invalidated or defiled or desecrated. Seriously. "Homosexuals can't procreate and hence not really have a family", seems to be the sole reason, really. I'd like to see all those people who are married and not procreating stripped of some of their rights, then, please.
The best thing about this - German law does not actually take the trouble to define what a "marriage" is, they just say that everyone has a right to have one - oh, the fucking irony, as I quite apparently do not. The only thing which brings "man" and "woman" into it are the legal commentaries - and the ECHR, which is apparently designed to be especially explicit and has,
"Men and women of marriageable age have the right to marry and to found a family, according to the national laws governing the exercise of this right." (Article 12 ECHR)
... although that still does not say that they have to marry each other, but again, the commentaries. But of course, since we have now been graciously offered the chance to get a civil union, we "can't complain".
I wonder how long that will take to be changed - but considering how long it's taken for women to be allowed to work or vote it might just take a wee while.