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I'm fine with whatever consenting adults do together.

With children? Barbaric and cruel. I don't think that physical violence should be encouraged in either parents or children, and while people do snap, humiliating and physically harming people dependent on you is inhumane.

Corporeal? That's a what, an angry corporeal patronus? Seriously though, this is a question people seriously ask? This depresses me.

Art and Harm

Monday, July 19th, 2010 12:21 pm
mothwing: A wanderer standing on a cliff, looking over a distant city (Book)
There are such a lot of discussions on art and violence these days which make my skin crawl so much I can't speak about them coherently and this probably clouds my judgement on them. Still, I'd like to say this: art can be harmful to people who didn't consent to be a part of it.

Recent sexual violence in what people say is art, trigger warnings )

If people use one oppression as a ~metaphor~ for another that is harmful to the party whose experiences it exploits to express yourself. It's the limit of freedom of expressing yourself - the moment your freedom touches that of another person and you take on their voice to speak about experiences you made, and I'd like to see more self-limitation at work.

I guess the question I'd like to put to people who argue that things like these are important enough to be made regardless is if they consider the message or artistic value of this particular piece to be more important than the problematic content and exploitation of others and why.

Because I don't see it.
mothwing: A wanderer standing on a cliff, looking over a distant city (Book)
Take a look at this:


Does this look... somehow... adult-themed to you? (Click here if you want to look at it in all its NSFW glory).

No?

Well, sorry, you sexually depraved deviant, you obviously don't share Amazon's family values (and shame on you, just look at it. It's clearly promoting not only the homosexual lifestyle, but also bestiality). This is clearly more offensive than, say,  the 120 days of Sodom. At least according to Amazon.com - as you may have already read, they're removing some titles from "some searches and bestseller lists and  the sales rankings from books they consider "adult themed".

Personally, I have no idea who makes the chops and why. King and King retains its ranking, so does The Different Dragon. My Daddy's Roommate does not, nor does Alan Hollinghurst's The Swimmingpool Library, or Fingersmith, but as I said, some editions of the 120 Days of Sodom do.

I wonder where this is going, especially considering some of the other books and merchandise allowed to keep its rating.

There's a summary of what has been going on here in case you're interested, and here is an affected writer's timeline.

This is gonna be good, I can tell.

EDIT: And the plot thickens. A SA employee's post on the AmazonFail proposed a different theory. According to him (1) either a vigilante organisation comparable to Innocence Jihad during during strikethrough/boldthrough/LoLJ's been reporting books with a specific kind of tags en masse, resulting in their adult flagging, (2) in addition to that, considering that apparently, Amazon's reporting system is not automatised, someone made "mistakes" influenced by personal bias when marking books as "adult themed" - or (3) someone did it for the lulz.

What gets me about the whole thing are the kind of books which were affected - LGBT books, no surprise there, it's common practice that any media with LGBT content are flagged as "adult", BDSM-related books, see above, but survivors, too? And feminists? Huh.

There is also early troll claims authorship of this and oh god, there is a twitter and an article on the Guardian (thanks, Bron).

Oh, I'll be needing some more popcorn for this.

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