Oh, LJ...

Monday, October 1st, 2007 01:55 pm
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I am such a good girl. I never really bother checking communities which are likely to offend me. Still, I thought, things can't get too bad, as they are famously on the paranoid side, and the member conduct says,
"XVI. MEMBER CONDUCT

You agree to NOT use the Service to:
Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive to another's privacy (up to, but not excluding any address, email, phone number, or any other contact information without the written consent of the owner of such information), hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;"
Hateful content: not allowed. Racism: not allowed. Good. When I found this post (warning, racist bullshit from a community full of racist bullshit), I therefore thought that reporting it would do the trick and the mods would delete it, as it is hateful and offensive. I am so naive.

Nope.

            "Dear LiveJournal user mothwing,

While the content in question may be disturbing and in poor taste, it does not constitute a violation of the LiveJournal Terms of Service. In order for material to be considered a violation of the Terms of Service, it would have to specifically threaten or incite harm against a particular racial, ethnic, or social group. The use of a term, even a negatively-charged term, cannot be considered a violation.

As such, we will be unable to assist you; we encourage you to refrain from viewing this journal in the future if you find its content offensive.

Regards,
LiveJournal Abuse Prevention Team."

So they are condoning this kind of nonsense because it's not hateful?? What is hateful if that is not hateful enough?
Yet another good reason to leave LJ. 

Date: Monday, October 1st, 2007 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aixa.livejournal.com
Something about it being friends-locked and how there was no proof that they were actually doing anything illegal. They basically hid behind the "religious freedom" argument and said that if it offended you, don't read it. It was total bullshit. The comms in question are still going, just friends locked with major barriers before they friend you. It's incredibly hard to see what they're actually discussing now, but the fact that they're promoting a style of disciplining your kid by beating them with so-called "chastening rods" made of PVC and beating children as young as mere weeks old, I'd say that's unacceptable by any interpretation of the rules.

Date: Monday, October 1st, 2007 09:14 pm (UTC)
ext_112554: Picture of a death's-head hawkmoth (Wolf)
From: [identity profile] mothwing.livejournal.com
That's outrageous. It's curious how much violence and hatred you can cover by freedoms.
What I don't understand is what's in it for them by allowing such groups. What are they loosing if they close down hate groups and communities promoting child abuse? Surely they won't be missed by so many people? They did not seem to have problems with randomly closing journals/communities before, so why not these?
Unless they are really that biased.

Date: Monday, October 1st, 2007 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aixa.livejournal.com
And that's the million dollar question, isn't it? The first Strikeout was thanks to a fundamentalist/dominionist Christian group sending in complaints. Those complaints were acted upon right away. Now, regular people can't be heard when they complain about abusive groups. Either LJ is going way too far in the other direction thanks to the backlash from the last round, or, there's a major influence within LJ from the dominionist side. Either way, it's not good.

Date: Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007 08:55 am (UTC)
ext_112554: Picture of a death's-head hawkmoth (Wolf)
From: [identity profile] mothwing.livejournal.com
After the first Strikeout I would have gladly believed that it had been a backslash, but after the second one, I don't know anymore. Someone who seemed to know all about it said back then that they had acted so quickly because they were pressurised to leap into action by 6Apart and only used the lists the fundies had sent them to save time, but they should have had enough time to catch their breath and rethink after that, and I still don't really get how the boldthrough came to pass. Seems they really are with the dominionists, or at least sympathise.

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