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OK, maybe this is harder than I thought and not as much a matter of common sense.

Let's imagine you are having a fight with someone and they suddenly really, really do not want to have a conversation with you that moment. Now imagine they are walking away from you.

At this point, how do you react?

- physically pull them back towards you and keep them there.
- let them go away and try again later.

From the position of the person trying to get away, what do you think is the preferrable option?

EDIT: are there any circumstances that make this believable behaviour that you'd be comfortable with and wouldn't make you go "wtf was that", as long as we're still talking to characters who are equals?

I can't believe that this is something that's an issue with adult film makers when filming scenes in which two non-abusive heterosexual adults who are in a relationship are having a heated discussion.

Date: Friday, June 4th, 2010 07:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mothwing.livejournal.com
Uuuugh, I hate how pervasive it is to overwrite the actual experience of assault survivors with stereotypes about gender and clothes. Also, how difficult it apparently is to negotiate consent. How hard can it be to just ask? Why is it always portrayed as and apparently also considered to be incredibly awkward and ~unromantic~ to ask for consent? Gnah.

Date: Friday, June 4th, 2010 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holyschist.livejournal.com
I don't know! I think it was partially played for laughs--"Oh, isn't it funny how aggressive Amy is! Look at the Doctor's hilarious discomfort!" which....ewwwwwww.

Bad taste in mouth.

It was one of those cases where yeah, my feeling of physical threat would be smaller if the other person was about my size, as women are more likely to be, and I think a lot of people look at it and see that she can't physically force him into anything. But the emotional/psychological threat is pretty much the same from my POV.

I think I just really don't like aggression, especially sexual aggression, played for laughs. I think it's a dangerous message to send.

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